Osprey thinks you want to buy a 6.7 lb $700 backpack.

I’ll gladly take an extra pound or so on a pack if it makes the pack wearable, or doubles the life of the materials. Several pounds seems a little excessive.

You did forget to mention the premium rainfly, though!

Also, for larger critters (or a herd of caribou), you’re making multiple trips, so I have a more substantial pack in the truck for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 13th meat Sherpa trips.

I defiantly would be entertained if Ospery had marketing material about hauling a heard of caribou with the pack.

High carbon stainless steel is a metal alloy containing relatively high amounts of carbon. The amount of carbon can be as much as 1.2% and as low as 0.2%. The reasons for this vary with the manufacturer and the type of blade they’re creating.

Typically used for making knives and so on.

Cheers

This pack will last you for the rest of your life, and also ensure that you regret every second of it.

With a max capacity of 72 L in the XL size, it is hard to imagine it being able to do much of anything better than, for example, a ULA Catalyst with a volume of 75 liters, a weight of 2# 14 oz, and a price of $300.  Unless it includes a jet pack in the frame, of course.  The exception would be for carrying loads of meat, or maybe unobtanium.  None of the lightweight packs that I know of are set up for that.  And this is after all a community oriented toward lightweight equipment.

This type of pack and even the Aether and Atmos appeal heavily to the new or casual backpacker that shops at their local outdoor store or REI.  I have purchased Osprey packs personally, we have owned both Aether and Atmost packs, lots of gimmicks and zippers.  I found a huge flaw in their hip belt as it adjusted with velcro for length.  So my son was using the pack and the hip belt would slide before it could take enough tension to really properly get the weight off his shoulders.  We have cut our gear weight and went to simpler packs but many people think starting out they need a pack that will carry “comfortably” 50 pounds or more.  I have been there and own that T-shirt.  I also now know from experience that is wrong at least for me.

I love REI but look at the great brands they do not carry, Gossamer Gear, Zpacks, Seek Outside and many more I cannot name.

We have a good outdoor store in town, they don:t cary anything other than Osprey, Deuter, Fjaraven and brands like that.

So the first thing most new would be backpackers see is an Osprey pack.  It is reviewed and gets great reviews in Backpacker and Outside magazine and so that is what they go out and buy.  If like me they have kids in Scouting they see adults wearing Osprey packs for the most part.

It’s starting to sound like Osprey packs are the kind that newbies buy, try, and give up on backpacking afterwards because it hurts to carry so much weight.

Might as well get one of these to go with it — https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hipstar#/

^There may be a correlation between what’s linked in the Gear Shop and what’s not, in terms of how assiduously armchair critiques are policed.

My granite gear pack has a “removable top lid” that’s such a pain to remove it may as well be soldered on, but I can see the appeal of having a lid-bag for summiting or day hikes or what have you. HPG made a series of kit bags for concealed carry that are being more or less cloned for UL use these days, and they’re super useful. I’d much rather trade into one of those, rather than want a daybag integrated into a pack.

That Osprey backpack is sold for $566 in Indonesia. At first I thought it could be a knock-off. However, I compared prices for other bags on the official Osprey website for Indonesia, and they tend to be a bit lower across the board compared to the US.

Not sure why the discrepancy. Osprey are made in Vietnam mostly.

Cheers,

Niko t.

The difference seems to be about 25 percent across the board. I agree that shipping costs alone may not account for such a large discrepancy.

The specs listed by the Indonesian retailer for the UNLTD model are slightly different than the official Osprey website. Sometimes brands tweak the products slightly for different markets. However, it could just as easily be errant data entering.